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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: Zone Manager Pay? | |
| What is the salary for zone managers? I am currently making about 15 dollars an hour as a Department Manager, What should I expect as a Zone Manager? | |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Zone Manager Pay? | |||
Salary will depend on store volume. As for what you can expect- 11+ hour work days, 48-55hr work weeks, and the loss of spiffs. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: | |
| Salary totally depends on the area of the country you're in. In my area the ZM salary range is roughly $38K - $50K. Several ZM's have told me that their base salary isn't all that great unless they bonus. And most store are not bonusing right now. And like rw said, expect long work days (it''s a 12-hour day at my store, 60 hours a week), and no spiffs or sos commissions. Sometimes salary isn't the biggest consideration with a job. | |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: | |
| Say goodbye to your family life. The zones in my store work 11 hours a day and are scheduled for 12 hour shifts. They also have to be able to work in every single department in the store. Can you cut blinds? Are you able to cut pipe and thread it? How well do you do with irate customers? How well do you think you'd do having to cover any department by yourself for the entire day when someone calls out or quits? Don't believe for a second that the surrounding departments are going to be able to pick up the slack. Typically if you're a department manager you can look for about an increase of about 10% in pay without factoring the additional work hours. So if you're making $15/hour at 40/week. Look to make @ $16.50/hour for a 40 hour week but you're actually working 55-60 hours that week. It's a pay cut for many. Like RW said most stores are no longer bonusing. You and I both know that is only a once a year thing too. No guarantees. Also, you must be willing to be relocated within your district. I've had a zone show up to work and then get told he now has to work 40 miles away on a permenant basis. | |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: | |
| If you have kids or are married I probably wouldn't advise it...but if you are single and say in an area that is ok and might bonus then maybe. The other thing is at that level they'll help you with moving expenses so if something is in another part of the country it can help. But at this point I'd say there's less and less of a reason to move up past dept manager. | |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:09 am Post subject: | |||
They only help with moving expenses if you are being promoted to the store that you are moving to. There have been many qualified canidates passed over lately for senior management positions because Lowe's would prefer to hire someone closer (but not quite as qualified for the job) than to pay moving expenses. Times are tough all over. If you're moving from department manager to zone, no moving expenses at all. From zone to ops, sales, or admin moving expenses. If you can find a SMTP graduate in the area locally Lowe's will not transfer someone out of state right now. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject: | |
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[quote="boardwalkties"]Salary totally depends on the area of the country you're in. In my area the ZM salary range is roughly $38K - $50K. Several ZM's have told me that their base salary isn't all that great unless they bonus. And most store are not bonusing right now. And like rw said, expect long work days (it''s a 12-hour day at my store, 60 hours a week), and no spiffs or sos commissions. Sometimes salary isn't the biggest consideration with a job.[/quote]
I know the hours you'll be working vary. I know at the store I'm in now the previous store manager would work the Zones 60-70 hours a week. But our current SM only works the zones thier scheduled 50 hour weeks and even lets them cut out early once in a while. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: | |
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lol...this website is funny...I forget how funny people are...
If you are curious about a salary, why not ask your HR, Store Manager, or Operations Manager. They will tell you. The fact that most stores are not bonusing is untrue. As we don't like to brag about it, but I am in a market where incursions and adjustments have made it possible for most stores to bonus. I wont say the hours are perfect, but they pay is much more than what is posted here by the part-time disgruntleds |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: | |
The bonus structure has changed for 2009, You can make your numbers for your department but if the rest of the dead wood doesn't and the store misses you get nodda! nuttin, zip,zero. Great incentive! no reward because of the failures of others! Makes me want to bust my ass!  NOT
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: | |
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"The fact that most stores are not bonusing is untrue. As we don't like to brag about it, but I am in a market where incursions and adjustments have made it possible for most stores to bonus."
Well that's what lowes states.... average same store sales are in the negative...they don't comp. If they don't comp I don't see how the NBT bonus can happen. I'm sure departments bonus...I'm sure some zones bonus... I'm sure there's someone going to some racing for results or some ncaa thing. I'm not doubting that but the actual huge legit bonus time is a thing of the past. some stores might bonus but it's not like it was say a few years ago...we're a long way off from 2005. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: | |||
Sounds slightly Obamaish don't you think? |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:39 am Post subject: | |||
Yha, Like new stores that the numbers are bunk!
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: | |
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Do Zone managers get monthly bonuses like Dept managers can?
What incentives are there for Zone? |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject: | |||
No, they no longer receive inventory bonuses at all. The department managers have the ability to bonus monthly based upon total store sales. They no longer bonus based upon their individual departments. (I think that is slightly Obamaish don't you? Everyone benefitting off of the work of a few actually doing the job) As a department manager you are eligible for the $1,000 inventory bonus, that has been removed from zones and above. The zones only receive a once a year potential bonus based upon the entire store's fiscals. If your store isn't bonusing on a monthly basis (now for the department managers) odds are against ending up with any additional bonus. Most stores are not bonusing at this time. Zone pay isn't worth the additional pain without a guarantee of that yearly bonus, not the potential. As a ZM you'll end up working more hours for the same amount of money when you figure in your 10% raise and the additional hours you have to put in each day. You do lose the ability to earn spiffs, commissions, and monthly bonuses for the same pay basically and longer hours. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: | |
| To repeat ... I've had several zones tell me that their salary isn't worth it unless they bonus. And there are few stores that are bonusing right now. If you become a zone they'll work you to death. And you'll have work weeks of at least 50 - and more like 60 - hours to look forward to. | |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:10 pm Post subject: | |||
[quote="skibunny"]
Starting last year, they have split the upper management bonuses to twice a year, making it more attainable to get at least 1/2 of your bonus if your store has a strong first 1/2, which most are not. But there are stores, and not just new stores that are doing OK. Whether or not to become a Zone depends on the the individual store. I know personally know some Zones in other stores that are really unhappy, but then again, I know the ones in my store seem happy. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: | |||
Exactly. If you bonus..fine it can be great. If not I don't think it's really worth the time. Maybe if you are single but it's doubtful if you have a large family. Let's not also forget getting grabbed for projects also can happen. Draw a circle around a district...these are places someone can be sent to. Let's not also forget you get to be tagged as the MOD and also that service manager thing. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: | |
| our sales manager left his login on the computer and I saw he makes just over $56000 a year | |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: | |
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In a lower scale I'd say that's the max...on a higher range that might be a mid.
The thing is the amount of money especially from say LP up can be quite dramatic from the low to high. at 50 hours a week I guess that can be worth it...but I mean it depends what else someone has in their life. if they have to do 60 hours then that's another story...once you cross the line to salary then it's a whole different ballgame |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: | |||
Our sales manager made just a little over $60K. He was fired roughly two weeks ago. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: | |
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The major things that can happen though in salary are these
1) you work as much as what the sm or the district manager says...is it 48? is it 53 is it 60...who knows 2) there's no sos or spiffs anymore 3) there's no ot at all...if you work a holiday there's a comp day 4) you'd get tagged as the mod 5) you'd get tagged to do projects sometimes. If they need a zm for an inventory or a remerch you'd probably have to go...anywhere in district 6) if...now I haven't seen this in a long time...if a place needs an overnight well it doesn't cost the company any more money to have someone pull an extra 10-20 hours to help on this. I wouldn't say that all zm's or salary are bad or lazy. But the way how they are treated by those above them isn't easy. |
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