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trueairspeed
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terminator
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:
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| Lowe's posts sharp drop in profit |
Do we really care? If things were that bad they wouldn't be sending all the SGM-Holes to Vegas next week!
Poor share holders
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trueairspeed
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject:
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Well you don't have to care if you don't want to and that may very well be your problem...
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Do we really care?  |
If you don't care about it then please by all means find something in life that you do care about!
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If things were that bad they wouldn't be sending all the SGM-Holes to Vegas next week!  |
Maybe or maybe not...
Just your opinion!
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Poor share holders  |
Are you one of those "poor shareholders"?
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Outside
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject:
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I don't know about you, but I'm thinking this might be the best time to BUY shares...
yep.
Time to INCREASE the ESPP IMO!
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terminator
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:00 am Post subject:
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| If you don't care about it then please by all means find something in life that you do care about! |
Wha!
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| Well you don't have to care if you don't want to and that may very well be your problem... |
Problem? Ah...No problem
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| Are you one of those "poor shareholders"? |
NOPE! I'll stick with security bonds.
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dictators_rule
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:17 am Post subject: SSS dowm but not catastrophic
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Lowes didn't do that bad .They're still in single digit SSS declines .Considering Lowes and Home Depot depended on and profited off the housing boom I think the numbers are not that bad .I'm guessing HDs numbers will be worse as will Sears/SHLD .
Even with declines there doesn't seem to be any major layoffs and closings .HD already has to close or announced the closing of 50 stores since the summer .16 regular HDs and 34 Expos .I think Lowes built smarter and the service is on par with HD if not better .
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rwarchol
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:33 am Post subject:
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| terminator wrote: |
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| Lowe's posts sharp drop in profit |
Do we really care? If things were that bad they wouldn't be sending all the SGM-Holes to Vegas next week!
Poor share holders  |
I for one will enjoy this week without my SGM.
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LowesMillworks
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:26 am Post subject:
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I don't know about you, but I'm thinking this might be the best time to BUY shares...
yep.
Time to INCREASE the ESPP IMO!  |
How do they determine the final price you pay?
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boardwalkties
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:47 am Post subject:
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| LowesMillworks wrote: |
| Outside wrote: |
I don't know about you, but I'm thinking this might be the best time to BUY shares...
yep.
Time to INCREASE the ESPP IMO!  |
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It's a good time to buy, but only if you are going to be in the market, and hold those shares, for a very, very long time. Personally, there are a LOT of better stocks out there to buy right now.
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skibunny
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject:
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Most companies did not meet their buget for 2008. My individual store only hit our budget by 88% but we held onto our profit margin by 135%. Which basically means that we didn't discount those items that we sold. We are not a swap meet or flea market like some of our fellow Lowe's stores out there. The products we sold we didn't have to discount for customers. They bought them at full price or when they were slightly on sale. I'm in a 2 year old store so the lower sales are to be expected still.
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Outside
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject:
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| ...Personally, there are a LOT of better stocks out there to buy right now. |
But this is the only stock I can get at a 15% discount!
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boardwalkties
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:19 am Post subject:
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| ...Personally, there are a LOT of better stocks out there to buy right now. |
But this is the only stock I can get at a 15% discount!  |
Would you buy a used Dodge Neon just because someone on a used car lot offered to give you a 15% discount on the advertised price?
15% off on an ugly pig still makes it an ugly pig.
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mdovell
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:50 am Post subject:
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Depending on the time frame of getting the stock it could be worth it.
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g-LUTZ-tonous
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject:
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If you really believe that you're hearing the true story about earnings, their balance sheet & Income statement...I'm afraid you're only kidding yourself. Lowe's upper tier is only telling itself lies & hasn't planned for this downturn & their only starting to react. That's why yesterday, you saw LOW go up about 3% & HD jump 10% in one day. It is just a day but you don't go below a 52 week low when you release a 4th quarter report for no reason.
The fairytale may be just around the corner to being over...So why not take the corporate jet to Vegas, just before you have to ask Washington for bailout...It wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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skibunny
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject:
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I asked a zm this past Sunday why if our company has such low profits why are all of the store managers in Las Vegas? His reply was that is one of their perks. So forget the whole lead by example thing.
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mdovell
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:48 pm Post subject:
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no offense but vegas is cheap (as long as you aren't gambling)
If you want an expensive city to host something try Hong Kong, Tokyo, London, Paris, Moscow (until recently).
Domestically I'd say LA, NYC, San Francisco, San Diego and maybe salt lake city are more expensive than vegas.
Vegas has been used for conventions by various groups for decades. If it isn't vegas then it's chicago. But chicago this time of year is quite cold and O'Hare airport doesn't help
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skibunny
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject:
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no offense but vegas is cheap (as long as you aren't gambling)
If you want an expensive city to host something try Hong Kong, Tokyo, London, Paris, Moscow (until recently).
Domestically I'd say LA, NYC, San Francisco, San Diego and maybe salt lake city are more expensive than vegas.
Vegas has been used for conventions by various groups for decades. If it isn't vegas then it's chicago. But chicago this time of year is quite cold and O'Hare airport doesn't help |
The airfare for every store manager to Vegas is cheap? Yes, companies get a break on having conventions there. Yes, the weather is better. The point I was making is that while our part-timers are being cut down to 10 hours per week the store manager is hopping onto a plane and heading out to Vegas. I have been there when the convention is taking place. It's just a bunch of people out sightseeing. They get into events free and our company is paying for that. How about rather than sending one store manager to The Shark exhibit at Mandalay Bay ($18.00 each) they increase a part-timer's hours by 2 that week?
I know it is a perk for store managers. The point I was making Mdovell is that if times are that tough how come we are not seeing cutbacks from the top? I'm sick of having to cover 3-4 departments all day long because there aren't enough hours to let the part-timers come into work. We are seriously losing sales because I know I can't get to each and every customer requiring help before they get frustrated and walk out the door.
My post Mdovell didn't mention anything about how much it cost or that there would be other venues more expensive. My post was directed at the fact that I would have preferred that Lowe's spend the money on hourly payroll in the stores instead of as a perk for managers. Understand where I'm coming from? I know you don't work at Lowe's anymore so I'm not certain you understand how lean times are right now. Much leaner than they have ever been in the past.
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mdovell
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:36 am Post subject:
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I understand things can be lean. When I started we didn't get vendors for a few months. All signage we were supposed to do. The books in the store at the front I did for a few years because no one told me there was a vendor for them (that and it was on IRP...that can't wait for someone to show up once a month). I've covered multiple departments at once.
You can only do what you can do per day. If management has problems with output them ask them to work more because zm and up is salary. It wouldn't cost lowes one cent to require them to do an overnight a month extra.
There's intimidation but much of it is just fake. zm's can fire you, department managers can't fire you. If someone threatens to use a lawyer stores can only call back to corporate as they can't hire their own.
Also this is a time of year where management gets canned or quits. If people find out they won't get promoted or a bonus it happens.
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terminator
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:50 am Post subject:
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You got that right SKI!
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During Lowe's telecast today from Vegas of all places, It was announced that all stores inventory levels will be lowered approximately $500,000 each store on duplicate slow sellers. For instance if there are 65 bathroom faucets they may weed out say......10 that are slow sellers, The plan is to sell through the items that will no longer be carried so they won't take a margin hit.
Now here is the LIKE Sears bit, They may take a look at using the additional revenue to buy back stock! Doh!
Lowe's is acting more like Sears every day. |
Stock buy backs! Hum
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g-LUTZ-tonous
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject:
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You see, Skibunny makes a great point about the annual meeting in Vegas. Almost every day for the first month of the year we heard about companies (AIG) taking a trip out west even though they were in financial ruin. Lowe's is not there, but you would think someone could bring these people to reality. Public opinion sure did for Merril Lynch when they were going to be at the Winn for 12 days back in early February...they abruptly cancelled.
It's this type of glamorizing & free spirited spending that makes most normal people who can't afford to take vacation these days, shake their heads. Here Lowe's is after one of the worst 4th quarter reports in company history, getting ready to go play. All the big boys (few girls) are heading out to Vegas, while everyone else is getting their hours cut & less pay in general. You know, I wish I could head out to Vegas this week but Im actually busy. Chances are if I was I'd see a couple of execs at the Roulet table...
Stone: "Bring mee another dra-ink, bitch...I'll bet all of Lowe's on black!"
Dealer: "ooohhhh, sorry sir the hit is 00!"
Stone: "!" (gulp)
Dealer: "don't worry sir, we can take you the top of the building (Winn) and allow you to jump off. Wouldn't you be happier that way...
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hsthompson
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:43 am Post subject:
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If Lowes does lay off or more like eliminate positions, we woud be the last to know. When Macy's and Depot eliminated positions the employees found out via CNN or Fox News.
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boardwalkties
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:25 am Post subject:
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| If Lowes does lay off or more like eliminate positions, we woud be the last to know. When Macy's and Depot eliminated positions the employees found out via CNN or Fox News. |
That's just the way all of corporate America seems to work. The "grapeline" has always worked far better and faster than hearing it from your boss.
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oldyeller
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:02 am Post subject:
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You see, Skibunny makes a great point about the annual meeting in Vegas. Almost every day for the first month of the year we heard about companies (AIG) taking a trip out west even though they were in financial ruin. Lowe's is not there, but you would think someone could bring these people to reality. Public opinion sure did for Merril Lynch when they were going to be at the Winn for 12 days back in early February...they abruptly cancelled.
It's this type of glamorizing & free spirited spending that makes most normal people who can't afford to take vacation these days, shake their heads. Here Lowe's is after one of the worst 4th quarter reports in company history, getting ready to go play. All the big boys (few girls) are heading out to Vegas, while everyone else is getting their hours cut & less pay in general. You know, I wish I could head out to Vegas this week but Im actually busy. Chances are if I was I'd see a couple of execs at the Roulet table...
Stone: "Bring mee another dra-ink, bitch...I'll bet all of Lowe's on black!"
Dealer: "ooohhhh, sorry sir the hit is 00!"
Stone: "!" (gulp)
Dealer: "don't worry sir, we can take you the top of the building (Winn) and allow you to jump off. Wouldn't you be happier that way... |
Has your pay been cut? Are you making less now than what you were last year?
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g-LUTZ-tonous
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject:
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Yes, I have volunteered to take a 25% salary deferal. Ther is no "in stone" document that says I'll ever see that. I can only hope. In my mind, you either take the cut or more than likely you'll be looking for a job.
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