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macys is the best


Joined: 19 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Hiring other people from a union store?  

MLB, I have a question for you. My mom wanted a job at my store. She filled out the application, a week later she got an email turning her down. She works at supermarket which is a union store. I asked my manager to talk to HR about hiring her, and they told him they won't hire her because she works for a union store. My manager said he is not suppose to tell me that, and could get in trouble for telling me. The said she could work for a unionize Macys only like 34th street or Queens macys. But the supermarket union is different from macys union. What is the big deal if she works for a union store. This seems illegal.
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belldoll


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject:  

this seem like discrimination to me. call the labor board. Usually when you quit a union job, your rights as a union member are dissolved, because the union dues are taken out of the paycheck of the union job. I think she can still belong to a union if she pays the dues, but Macy's wouldn't necessarily be under any obligation to comply with the rules.

well, if working for a company that was union is any criteria in hiring, then I shouldn't have been hired.
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macys is the best


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject:  

belldoll wrote:
this seem like discrimination to me. call the labor board. Usually when you quit a union job, your rights as a union member are dissolved, because the union dues are taken out of the paycheck of the union job. I think she can still belong to a union if she pays the dues, but Macy's wouldn't necessarily be under any obligation to comply with the rules.

well, if working for a company that was union is any criteria in hiring, then I shouldn't have been hired.


She still works there, she just wants a second job. Maybe she should had put she had quit. So what if she has a union, it is not like they could do any thing to macys.


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fashion101


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject:  

Money, people on this board know who you are and who your manager is. Do you think you should be mentioning that your mgr told you something he shouldn't have??

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belldoll


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject:  

macys is the best wrote:
belldoll wrote:
this seem like discrimination to me. call the labor board. Usually when you quit a union job, your rights as a union member are dissolved, because the union dues are taken out of the paycheck of the union job. I think she can still belong to a union if she pays the dues, but Macy's wouldn't necessarily be under any obligation to comply with the rules.

well, if working for a company that was union is any criteria in hiring, then I shouldn't have been hired.


She still works there, she just wants a second job. Maybe she should had put she had quit. So what if she has a union, it is not like they could do any thing to macys.


I would have her contact her local union steward, office or website to inquire whether or not there would be a problem.

IMO, it shouldn't matter. You know Macy's runs scared when you talk "union." bastards
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belldoll


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject:  

fashion101 wrote:
Money, pepole on this board know who you are and who your manager is. Do you think you should be mentioning that your mgr told you something he shouldn't have??


I don't know who she is or where she works. But I'm out west.
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macys is the best


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject:  

belldoll wrote:
macys is the best wrote:
belldoll wrote:
this seem like discrimination to me. call the labor board. Usually when you quit a union job, your rights as a union member are dissolved, because the union dues are taken out of the paycheck of the union job. I think she can still belong to a union if she pays the dues, but Macy's wouldn't necessarily be under any obligation to comply with the rules.

well, if working for a company that was union is any criteria in hiring, then I shouldn't have been hired.


She still works there, she just wants a second job. Maybe she should had put she had quit. So what if she has a union, it is not like they could do any thing to macys.


I would have her contact her local union steward, office or website to inquire whether or not there would be a problem.

IMO, it shouldn't matter. You know Macy's runs scared when you talk "union." bastards


I can't do anything b/c I wasn't suppose to know that was the reason for not hiring her.
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macys is the best


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject:  

belldoll wrote:


IMO, it shouldn't matter. You know Macy's runs scared when you talk "union." bastards


I know it shouldn't matter. so what she is in a union. It not like she could make macys a union store.
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belldoll


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject:  

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I can't do anything b/c I wasn't suppose to know that was the reason for not hiring her.



NO, have your mom contact her union, not you, silly.
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macys is the best


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject:  

belldoll wrote:
Quote:
I can't do anything b/c I wasn't suppose to know that was the reason for not hiring her.



NO, have your mom contact her union, not you, silly.

I know, but I am saying me and my mom was not suppose to know.

If she did contact her union what will she say.
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belldoll


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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject:  

Maybe your mom should talk to HR herself. (You know, have her act dumb.) Obviously she has the customer service thingy down working at a grocery store. Could it be her availability?

Then she can ask them if it's because I belong to a union.
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MAYcylady


Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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Location: A Place Where No Thongs Are Not Allowed
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject:  

Of course they won't tell her that. In our store, a girl interviewed for a job in cosmetics. They loved her, and had said yes, this is who we are hiring. She called back and said that she felt like she should tell them that she is pregnate. Guess what? They didn't hire her. They would not tell HER that was the reason, but I heard it myself from the account coordinator. Hmmm. Ironically, she applyed again the next year, and was hired.
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belldoll


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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:58 am    Post subject:  

The policies and managers are just inhuman.
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NormaRae


Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:11 am    Post subject:  

OMG !! she was PREGNATE ???

i'm sure i never heard of that before !!! is that like leaning on your cell phone ??

MAYcylady, are you sure you and MONEY are not related ??

hee.

(sorry, i couldn't help myself) Razz
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MAYcylady


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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject:  

Sorry for the typo. And yes, I am related to Money; I'm the mother that Macy's wont' hire b/c I'm in the Union. I would complain about it, but I don't want to get his manager in trouble. Now let me get back to leaning on my cell phone! Very Happy
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Josh1234


Joined: 16 Feb 2009
Posts: 9
Location: Herald Square
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject:  

This is a very common occurrance for this company. It is illegal and the employee should file a complaint with the NLRB. It's disgusting that this continues.
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Pollianna2


Joined: 03 Jan 2008
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Location: ole wrap stand
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:04 am    Post subject:  

one thing about MACYS..it could never have the same rules..changes all the time for themselves not for the regular associates Doh!
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krapug1


Joined: 09 Dec 2008
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Location: Hamptons, LI
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject:  

Just to give you an example from Macy's past, when it comes to Union vs, non-Union stores.

The former Bamberger's division was the corporate darling of RH Macy's, and opened stores in every corner of NJ, eastern Pa., Del. Maryland, and Virginia. Many of these locations are Macy's today.

In this mix were 2 union stores, downtown Newark, downtown Morristown, and 1 union office, the headquarters staff in downtown Newark. 2 northern NJ DC's were also union.

If you worked in Newark, or Morristown you signed at hire,
the companies policy that they would only transfer union employees between union worksites.

The joke here was that the downtown Newark store was already loosing money, and Morristown was marginal.
As store hours started to be cut back in Newark, many people asked for transfers to the mall locations, but all they could get were extra hours working in the offices.

When these two stores were finally closed, Newark in 1991, and Morristown in 1993, the employees were laid off, and offered the "chance" to apply at non-union stores, starting over as new employees.

When Federated merged A & S into Macy's in 1995, the remaining offices in the downtown Newark building were closed, those employees were laid off, and the offices were moved into the downtown Brooklyn store that was never a union shop. A & S had a great benefits package, including an emergency loan fund (CHIP), and thus had no union work sites.

My first job was at Bamberger's in downtown Newark, making $2.65 per hour (1977), and I had to pay $2.75 in union dues each week, plus a $50.00 initiation fee, $2.50 per week for 20 weeks.

Ken
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