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_AIX


Joined: 25 Mar 2008
Posts: 222
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject:  

I'm no longer with Sears, but I was there for "Sowing the Seeds" crap... 8 hours listening to Alwyn speeches and playing stupid team-building games like "Create the Shape from the Paper Pieces". The only change that meeting inspired was all of us mocking the culture seeds for a few weeks...
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gageflame


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Posts: 376
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject:  

"to begin to breath new life into a new Sears Culture". They will begin to introduce our new "Behavior Expectations" for all associates and leaders.


How do you breathe new life into a corpse??? New expectations for behavior??? Is that going to include how to have USED condoms which are stuck to a condom box in HBA, weaved in your face as my daughter had a couple weeks ago by the new receiving male associate?? Asking her " if she wants it??"

I just don't think I can stomach another rah rah meeting, with the lousy assoiciuate of the day award going to someone who has already been beaten over the head with their job, and the don't see it my way leave then routine. I've memorized the crap until it gives me nightmares, only relieved by a hefty dose of antidepressants combined with two Tylenol sleeping pills. May try throwing in a fifth of bourbon for good measure.

ALL HAIL HITLER.
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daka


Joined: 01 Apr 2006
Posts: 190
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject:  

Gageflame --

I do not believe most of what you say. If the condom thing happened to my daughter (and all of the other things that have happened to you) I would pick myself up and your daughter and walk the hell out of there. Are you a masochist? Where is your pride and your protection of your daughter?

And, by the way, I am offended by your homage to Hitler. I am of the Jewish faith and I resent your "Hail" to him.
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periwinkle


Joined: 20 Aug 2008
Posts: 6
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject:  

daka wrote:
Gageflame --

And, by the way, I am offended by your homage to Hitler. I am of the Jewish faith and I resent your "Hail" to him.


Daka,
I think you misunderstood what Gageflame was getting at with the "Heil Hitler". He/she meant no disrespect for anyone (except Sears management). The "Heil Hitler" is the way Sears expects US employees to respond, like stupid, unthinking automatons, to their orders, just like the German crowds responded to Hitler. When Sears management gives an order, they want us to snap our shoes together smartly and throw that arm up sharply and bark out enthusiastically to whatever insane ideas they have come up with. They want no disagreements, no arguments, no fussing or whining, just total, immediate, unthinking obedience. That's what the "Heil Hitler" is all about. Has nothing to do with the Jewish faith or any other faith.

And we employees are having nothing to do with such stupidity. We're not unthinking automatons.
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RJGILL1007


Joined: 10 Sep 2003
Posts: 325
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject:  

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tool God


Joined: 13 Jun 2008
Posts: 195
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject:  

periwinkle wrote:
daka wrote:
Gageflame --

And, by the way, I am offended by your homage to Hitler. I am of the Jewish faith and I resent your "Hail" to him.


Daka,
I think you misunderstood what Gageflame was getting at with the "Heil Hitler".

I have my POV regarding the Holocaust, and it's surprisingly not that extremist. But this is not the forum for that kind of discussion. All that we need to know is Hitler and the Jews do a thread lock make.
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steviesears


Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 479
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject:  

Who let the K-Moron into this thread.
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dictators_rule


Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Posts: 6294
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: BORG CUBE  

WE ARE THE BORG , YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED , YOU WILL COMPLY , ANYTHING ELSE IS IRRELEVANT!

Ra Ra RA , more categories to check off and put on a numerical value for evaluation/we he have to let you go time.

YOU WILL COMPLY
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vickers


Joined: 14 Jul 2006
Posts: 583
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject:  

Comparing a stupid meeting to friggin Hitler is the stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum. It was a meeting. This is retail. Comparing it to Hitler and his regime...doesn't even compute.

I'm glad I work in the store I do. Things might get bad, but at least we (that have been there a while) care about each other and can remain relatively upbeat.
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goodole312


Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Posts: 665
Location: stuffed in the back room of a kmart
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject:  

steviesears wrote:
Who let the K-Moron into this thread.



always nice to see my coworkers going the mature route.
if you don't believe what gage says just don't read it, clearly wed never convince her to leave and shell never convince all of us that what she says is true so why waste the time and keystrokes arguing
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steviesears


Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 479
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject:  

I just wish she would quit going to the library and using their internet to complain. How pathetic of a liar do you have to be to "only get 5 hours a week" at a job and keep going in. Seriously. I wish there was just forum ignore, cause I would have a long time ago.
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vickers


Joined: 14 Jul 2006
Posts: 583
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject:  

Who is the k-moron? Confused

Anyhow, I'm sticking by what I believe...we had a good meeting and most liked it. We were able to complain about a lot of things and most importantly our SGM agreed with a lot of the crap we have to go through. Thank god my SGM is not a corporate drone.

Now...the DM on the other hand...

Doh!
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steviesears


Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 479
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject:  

Hey vickers. Which district are you in? If it is East of the Mississippi lemme know. Ill PM you my district. Wondering if we are maybe talking bout the same D Bag DM.
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vickers


Joined: 14 Jul 2006
Posts: 583
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject:  

Yes, I am east of the Mississippi...if you do PM me, you'll probably have to list some of the stores because I don't know the numbers anymore.
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searsbcslave


Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 99
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: BORG CUBE  

dictators_rule wrote:
WE ARE THE BORG , YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED , YOU WILL COMPLY , ANYTHING ELSE IS IRRELEVANT!

Ra Ra RA , more categories to check off and put on a numerical value for evaluation/we he have to let you go time.

YOU WILL COMPLY


Don't forget the most important part.......

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.......
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daka


Joined: 01 Apr 2006
Posts: 190
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject:  

My last word on the subject...........
Thank you all and I respect all of your opinions. We are all entitled to our own.
I just don't like the reference Gageflame used.
I have had my problems at Sears and so does a relative of mine, however, we never reference anything of hostility or anger at anything religious or hateful.
I noticed that Gageflame did not join in or explain herself. I believe she is her own destructive force.
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gageflame


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Posts: 376
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject:  

My reference to Hitler was just that, a connection between the regime at this company, and the Nazi's. As a Wiccan, I have no problems with any religion Jewish or otherwise but when you see parallels between two similar events you can't ignore them. Open your eyes an look. From the youth movement that Obama is currently working on this country, to the you will be assimilated by Kmart and Sears or else, is turning that direction

I didn't respond immediately because I currently have a legal problem I'm dealing with and I do not live on the internet 24/7. But when someone stands up especially management and tells someone he can program me or anyone else to be the perfect Kmart associate the parallel cannot be ignored.
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allhandsabandonship


Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 2166
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject:  

steviesears wrote:
Positive energy doesn't mean shit when it doesn't address the major customer issues. The lack of take with stock probably costs each unit at least a half million dollars a year. It destroys morale when you can't take care of the customer and make commission.

Not to mention that if you burn someone on something enough times they will never come back.


Too bad they can't force customers to take seminars. Those people are ruining Sears culture with their negativity. If they would just quit saying NO to shit they don't want or need, and quit demanding competent delivery of the merchandise they want right now, just think how positive a culture Sears could have. Very Happy
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vickers


Joined: 14 Jul 2006
Posts: 583
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject:  

gageflame wrote:
My reference to Hitler was just that, a connection between the regime at this company, and the Nazi's. As a Wiccan, I have no problems with any religion Jewish or otherwise but when you see parallels between two similar events you can't ignore them. Open your eyes an look. From the youth movement that Obama is currently working on this country, to the you will be assimilated by Kmart and Sears or else, is turning that direction


Overreaction much? Don't draw politics into this discussion. The current government really has nothing to do with the problems our company is facing. Blame the greedy people that run the company. I don't think there is anything other than that--it's just greed. There is no "comply or else" at least, not at MY store and I'm sorry some of you folks face that. "Comply or else" people exist in all companies, not just Sears and not just retail. Fact of life....sorry!
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Bugs


Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 13
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject:  

[/quote]
if you don't believe what gage says just don't read it, clearly wed never convince her to leave and shell never convince all of us that what she says is true so why waste the time and keystrokes arguing[/quote]

Excellent advice goodole312.

So, Gageflame is a Wiccan. Sounds like she may the victim of the Wicca Law of Threefold Return which holds that whatever benevolent or malevolent actions a person performs will return to that person with triple force. Lots of bad things seem to happen to her. Maybe GF should spend less time ranting about Kmart and more time cultivating the Wiccan virtues.[/i]
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wanupo


Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 79
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject:  

ENOUGH gageflame.

From your posts, your daughter is obviously the most abused worker on the planet.
We get it.
Enough.

And the Hitler crap isn't appropriate, offensive to alot of people....

And has nothing to do with the topic.
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dictators_rule


Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Posts: 6294
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:49 am    Post subject: RESISTANCE IS FUTILE  

Thanks searsbc how could I forget the most important line:

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Wait and see how long it takes for the company to turn a motivational meeting to use the associated policies and processes like a sledge hammer for power & discipline.

Assimilate or else!
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gageflame


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Posts: 376
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject:  

I don't intend to get into a debate on this. Believe what I'm saying or not it doesn't matter to me either way. The simple fact is some of us would like nothing better than to run from this company and forget we ever had anything to do with them but for some of us running isn't that easy. But when someone is battered endlessly with the " be glad you even have a job" even if it's a crappy job, bull every single day they get sick and tired of it. It does nothing to make them want to work themselves into an early grave with the constant chase your own tail.

I've watched this forum run Luis into the ground claiming he or she is lying, until he or she doesn't want to say anything, and now some of you thinking you will do the same with me. It's the old Kmart/Sears humiliate and ridicule routine . Well no thank you since I've watched over the last two years as first one person, usually an older person is riduled and humiliated out the door at Kmart.

Now as to this meeting, I QUIT attending those little huddles in this store,( I'd rather stand in front of a speeding truck,or have my finger nails removed with flaming hot pinchers) with this store manager because I could not stomach the crap he was spewing any longer without throwing up down the front of his starched shiny shirt. It made me physically ill to hear his bull day after day, not to mention depressed the hell out of me until I wanted to hang myself in the loading bay. I would NOT attend any meetings manditory or not.

I'm glad some of you have decent managers, I too had one or two of those until they ran them off. but don't get complacent and think it will continue because from 9 years experience it won't. Now I'm close to losing my home because I took a stand against the discrimination and retailiation but I did take a stand and said no more, which is a hell of a lot more than I've seen some on this forum and at this Kmart store willing to do. Most of the others in this store where I work would rather lie and say everything is peachy rather than tell the truth but then stand and complain when the manger rides their backs and writes them up because they can't perform miracles or be in 5 places at once. Personally I hope they enjoy being told constantly they are worthless, and replacable, because I didn't. I'm human not a blasted borg.

Now let me tell you this little story about the coming back in threes, in my belief that doesn't have to be in this lifetime but can be in another. don't know who I killed in a former life, but he must have been important. A young man who looted my mobile home which I owned free and clear on a leased lot, yes a registered lease no less, a few years ago when it was destroyed by a biggoted land owner, a young man I babysat for when he was a child the same age as my younger son, just had a very bad four wheeler accident. He spent several years in prison for unrelated crimes. got out and the first thing he did is went right back to the same thing. Was going too fast after stealing some items and flipped the four wheeler cracking his skull. They do not know if he will survived or what his condition will be. Now a part of me wants to say well he had it coming and another part of me is so very sad for a life thrown away. Sad Sad The point? This company could stand to learn from past experiences and stop making the same mistakes which will eventually drag them into bankrupcy again. You can put lipstick on a pig but it doesn't change the fact it's still a pig.


Now if I don't say anything for a few days don't think you've suceeded in ridiculing, calling me a liar, or humiliating me into the old rah rah, we're a great company to work for crap, or suceeded in stopping me from telling the facts. It's just because I have a lot better things to do right now and haven't been feeling all that well the last couple days. Suffice it to say I don't shop at this store or any store in this company, since I would not want to be accused of stealing anything while holding a receipt in my hand, my family does not shop at this store, my friends do not shop at this store and I have no intention of running around on my off time and begging them to do so.

A thank you to those of you who stood up for me. I'm glad there are a few commonsense people still left on this forum. I guess the big meeting missed me thank heavens for small favors.
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steviesears


Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 479
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject:  

delusional.
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BlackListed


Joined: 09 Jan 2009
Posts: 32
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:43 am    Post subject:  

You could always quit.
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