Staying after store closes

Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 1217 Location: ole wrap stand

Dinner...ooooh please Macys dont want sales associates to have dinners at normal hours..specially on Sundays Norma Doh!

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 919 Location: CA

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Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 919 Location: CA

I was told by several associates that a couple of weeks ago LP held the closing shift hostage and wouldn't let them leave. The LP person actually barred the exit door with her arms and told the workers they HAD to stay until 9:30. Most associates clock out at 9:20 or so; the lights go down at 9:20.

The workers were also told to go back to work until 9:30, then drop off their last clock-out slip in the LP door.

I smell another lawsuit here.

I'm glad I wasn't there that particular night.

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject:

What does LP have to do with what time you clock out?

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 919 Location: CA

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject:

They can detain you until the time you are scheduled to clock out per your work agreement with the company. Leaving before your scheduled time could be a breach of your voluntary employee agreement with the said company. Therefore if you leave at 9:20 the company could terminate you.

Legally they cannot detain you after the time you are scheduled. If they are not letting you leave at your scheduled time you should have recourse against the company.

Any company in their right mind would let the employee leave ten minutes early if all work has been completed. After all that could save a store thousands or more per year

Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 251

First tangent: I was under the impression that the stores can order supplies as needed. Last to my knowledge, real Windex is available to order. It is expensive (much like the five dollar dusters,) but it is there.

Working in a union/billion dollar hell/flagship, I have recently heard the staying a half hour after closing bit. I do not know how it was before being I have seen sales associates stay that long after closing during the times I have closed. One of the new things that is going on is that they are planning to make some of the daytime support associates close at least one night a week (joy.)

I don't know how it works in other cities/states, but in New York, they are required to pay you for every minute that you work. This includes overtime. Although a manager can tell you not to work it, and a worker can be penalized in other ways for doing it, the manager has no right to modify the clockings.

Concerning working on/off the clock, if an associate is injured off the clock due to something in the store, Macy's is not responsible.

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 884

In my store most associates are scheduled a half hour after closing. The time is supposed to be used for closing the register, recovery etc. Most associates are finished in 15 minutes but are supposed to stay and "find" something to do. Most of the time they will leave after the first 15 minutes and it has not really been a big deal. However I think it is a major waste of time when you have associates standing around for 15 minutes because they don't want to clock out early even tho they are finished. Not to mention when we are open until 11 pm. For heavens sake let the people GO HOME!

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject:

At my store, associates are waiting to run out of there as soon as the store closes!

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Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 1217 Location: ole wrap stand

Well by me this is on going thing about working 30 minutes after the store close. Its use to be for just the holidays now its forever on going. Cringe and bare it Embarassed

but the LP personal got involved now this is something new in my books Doh!

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject:

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject:

I don't see how it's a LP issue. We are saving the company money!

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 884

There has been something going on with the hours especially in cosmetics. Maybe mayguy knows what it is. They have to use all the hours that they are allotted or they will "lose" them. Doesn't make much sense to me, but I think the cosmetics part of it is because the vendors pay part of the wages.
To me it would make sense to save the money!!

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oh, and it's got nothing to do w/ cosmetics, btw.

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Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 919 Location: CA

Ok, first of all LP was directed by a "manager" to stop employees from leaving before 9:30. Rumor has it was the SM. LP had grabbed the final clocking paper from one gal and wrote down her name, then of course she grabbed it back and left. Some people were told to go back and clock back in and go to work til 9:30. Douchebags. A couple of my co-workers wanted to talk to him about the incident the next morning, but he weaseled out of the talk numerous times during the day.

Now I know that we can clock in/out ten minutes within our shift. I'm glad I wasn't there that night; I would have left. I'm not going to be intimidated by anyone after I clock out.

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:40 am Post subject:

This should come as no surprise. This is Macy's we're talking about. Policy and procedure consistency does not exist!

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that's because the rules change every single you ask the same question.
that's how it is in my store. from the SM down to our own GSM, this is the basic tenet:

there are different rules for different associates. plain and simple. end of story. i have proof of it.

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 919 Location: CA

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