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dictators_rule
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: Olympian Phelps smoking pot OK ? College Boy Excuse OK ?
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I don't have a link but it's been in the news where Olympic swimmer Micheal Phelps got caught smoking from a bong .And his major sponsors or sponorees are still keeping him .
But isn't it a contradiction for a majorly well known Olympic athlete to give the excuse he's only 23 while he was smoking at a college party .
Not only does this ruin in his reputation as a 'good guy' but raises questions about other ILLEGAL drug use including performance enhancing drugs .And this tops off his previous DUI several years ago .
Too many are saying let him go he's still young .Wait a minute - it supposedly takes an ADULT to have the discipline to train for and win Olympic races & medals .I've known too many who had the discipline not to do ILLEGAL drugs over or under 18 .Phelps is not a juvenile nor is this his first barbeque .
Do you want to be an adult and get paid a very adult salary in the millions for giving your alledgedly good name to major companies ? Or do you want to party like high school kids drinking a kegger in the bushes . Which is it Mikey -party time or millions and be set for life time ?
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trueairspeed
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:50 am Post subject:
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Another "Hero" to look up too, eh?
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dictators_rule
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: sherrif
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Saw where the local sherrif said they would investigate the incident .But that means they have to pressure people into testifying .
It is proof that their are drugs on that campus or frat house though .I would send under covers to get those ' students ' he partys with .
Then I see Hollywood is saying ' it's ok '-they said the View's Whoopee Goldberg took mikee's side .
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MastaShake1108
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject:
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I don't understand what the taboo is about marijuana when alcohol is legal.
It all comes down to your responsibility as a person. Micheal Phelps has not lost any of my respect - so he have have smoked pot. He's also one of the hardest working, most dedicated and responsible people around, with the kind of regimen he has to deal with. Give him a break.
I can find a TON of people who are lazy, unresponsible, and just generally bad people who don't smoke pot. If I had the choice between them and Micheal Phelps to get something done, I'd choose the latter.
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dictators_rule
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:31 am Post subject: contract legal
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Until they make pot legal the average citizen should just have to accept it .Using pot isn't like speeding ,you have to obtain it hide it and use it all with purpose .
Problem with Micheal Phelps is that he signed a contract for publicity ;good publicity at that for the likes of Speedo and Omega .His contract probably has a morals clause and he is being paid to at least appear moral in publc (A party not at his house is out in public) .
The moral problem with Phelps is that is supposed to be an ' ideal ' for health and fitness .Hate the word but he IS a PAID role model .He is also paid to honor his contract .
My problem with pot besides legal and illegal behavior is that the smoke and smell is as bad as much as a room full of cigarette smokers .
And again .Phelps is an Olympic athlete or actually just an athlete .An athlete's credibility depends on the presumption they do not use banned substances .If Phelps is using a drug that could get him thrown in jail what's one supposed to think about his attitude twards performance enhancing drugs where he can only get thrown out of the competition .
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MastaShake1108
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:38 am Post subject: Re: contract legal
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Until they make pot legal the average citizen should just have to accept it .Using pot isn't like speeding ,you have to obtain it hide it and use it all with purpose .
It kinda is like speeding....you're risking the behavior and are hoping not to get caught. Same thing. When you break a law, you are consciously aware of it, regardless of the circumstances. So saying that you shouldn't use it because it is illegal is correlative to saying that you shouldn't speed because it is illegal, shouldn't run a stop light because it is illegal, shouldn't download music because it is illegal...the list goes on....
Problem with Micheal Phelps is that he signed a contract for publicity ;good publicity at that for the likes of Speedo and Omega .His contract probably has a morals clause and he is being paid to at least appear moral in publc (A party not at his house is out in public) .
The moral problem with Phelps is that is supposed to be an ' ideal ' for health and fitness .Hate the word but he IS a PAID role model .He is also paid to honor his contract .
For health and fitness? Alright, that's fine, but that's also kinda like saying he shouldn't eat ice cream ever again, because that's not healthy, either. He's not necessarily a paid role model - he's just an outstanding athlete.
My problem with pot besides legal and illegal behavior is that the smoke and smell is as bad as much as a room full of cigarette smokers .
And again .Phelps is an Olympic athlete or actually just an athlete .An athlete's credibility depends on the presumption they do not use banned substances .If Phelps is using a drug that could get him thrown in jail what's one supposed to think about his attitude twards performance enhancing drugs where he can only get thrown out of the competition.
This is true...although marijuana, to be sure, certainly does not have any performance enhancing attributes...so I'm not sure that just because of this is reason to believe more. |
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dictators_rule
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: ILLEGAL drug use
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Without getting too far off topic the problem I have with ILLEGAL drugs is that using them does require more effort than a lof of citation offenses .You have to go buy or aquire your ILLEGAL drugs AND then find a place to use them .ILLEGAL drug use is much more conspiratorial and tends to involve more than one person mainly the dealers or distributors .In M Phelps case the distributors were his party companions .
If Mikee was outspoken about legalization including speeches,protests,books articles etc I have a little more respect for his and others actions .But this isn't about my cancer meds make me sick or I think it's constitutionally unfair .It's about getting high .
I'll admit if you abuse alcohol there is a potential for problems .But perhaps that's one reason the law permits or limits use to something like alcohol .Abusing anything causes problems .
But with alot of ILLEGAL drugs like pot if a person is stoned as compared to drunk from alcohol they are quite useless .I don't like doing business or even hanging with stoners or alchies because while your dealing with the details and rigours of life soberly they're counting purple elephants .I can't compete with those who just " relieve stress " rather than dealing with it and it's causes .If alcohol isn't abused it affects are probably much more temporary .I could go into gateway drug or a higher thc content or what ever but we're talking Mikee here .
Back to Mikee,Mikee is PAID to endorse products .Mikee is PAID to associate his name and Olympic feats to those products .Why the heck is Mikee poolside during one of his commercials where they all laugh at the end with a laptop on his lap .Key word Mikee is PAID to associate his name and Olympic feats with those products .An Olympian who accomplished Olympics feats without the use of ILLEGAL drugs-supposedly .Keyword PAID ,paid to project an "Olympic" association with certain products .You don't want your product associated with ILLEGAL activity .
You can abuse things like ice cream but ice cream is a food,a necessity in life .It might be a poor choice of foods but it is a legal food never the less .And if you need calories and burn more or just as many calories as you take with food's it's alot tougher to abuse/have detrimental effects .Even Mikee had like a grand slam breakfest plus everyday when training for the Olympics because of his training regime .
I not trying to equate or imply pot has performance enhancing qualities but I am trying to show that if someone will do an ILLEGAL drug with criminal repercussions that chances of that same person using a banned substance with no criminal repercussions are much greater .And M Phelps does not need that implication .
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dictators_rule
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:19 am Post subject: suspended
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http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3887608
Phelps suspended by USA Swimming for 3 months for violating the code of conduct .Kellogs will not renew his endorsement deal .
Sidenote Phelps apparently was getting 1700 a month from USA Swimming .He elidgable for competition in May .
Hope mikee didn't invest with Madoff .
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Magnolia
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:29 am Post subject:
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Some American Hero he turned out to be.
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denimandlace_69
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:30 am Post subject:
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At least he didn't say, "I did not inhale." (as far as I know, anyway...)
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dictators_rule
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: arrests made
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Arrests have been made in the Phelps bong scam .And someone topped mikeee by trying to sell the bong he used on ebay .
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1274320
My thing is I hope they get to distributor to flip and get the distribution organization .Everyone forgets a criminal transaction/transactions had to occur for substance to wind up in Phelp's hands/bong .
Sidenote-that's what ticks me about the A Roid-ooops ment A-ROD scandal .Apparently one of the substances he took is banned here in the US so again ,criminal transactions had to take place for him and others to get many of these performance enhancers .As one headline said -you can't get this stuff at GNC .
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